“First impressions. I love the way the mouthpiece looks, and it is beautifully finished for a prototype. Fortunately had an old 2 screw Lig that fit. Spent about half an hour going back and forth between my 10MFan Boss and the Hooligan. Tried a 2 1/2 Bass Clarinet and 3 and 3 1/2 Tenor Sax Legere Signature Reeds.
Facing curve works well on all 3 no quackiness or other oddities. As expected the 3 is easier at this stage to go quietly down low but was a little more fussy on altissimo. A few hours of get to know are in order.
Sound wise my first impressions are its not quite as raspy as my Boss can be but offers a wider palette in the more civilized range of sax noises. I use a 10MFan Robusto for section work which is a great section mouthpiece.
Mid point of the soundscape of the PPT is between the two others. Time will tell, but I think the altissimo on Pete’s piece is capable of being a little fuller if not overblown. Both Boss and PPT can shriek up there if pushed.
Again first impressions but I think the PPT Hooligan has the widest sound palette of any mpce I have played so far. Intonation on my SML Gold Medal 1 requires a wee bit less correction on the PPT than the Boss which indicates to me that the mpce and SML are a great match. Big bore horn and big open mpce.
Nicely free blowing which Suits my style. A few hours of long tones at the bottom and altissimo ends will tell the tale.
Oops forgot to add, it’s nicely balanced across the range of the horn.”
Jazzaferri (PPT Tenor Hooligan prototype)
I liked to write a review.
It’s an incredibly good mouthpiece and day after day it shows more and more of what it can do.
Great Fun and very versatile!
yesterday morning I picked up the PPT Onyxite 9 * and in the afternoon I went to the rehearsal room to try it in peace and in all volumes with different reeds.
Honestly I am thrilled and fascinated at the same time. I’ve never played such an incredibly flexible and enjoyable mouthpiece.
You will find my first feedback on your website (and copy down here).
If you like to post it further feel free to do it!
Jennifer & Rüdiger
Greetings Pete, It has been a real pleasure playing my new soprano mouth piece. I found the adjustment from my selmer to the PPT an easy one. The tip size is approximately the same and the way mouth piece fits my mouth is very familiar and so it’s been fun to compare the two straight across. I do like the sound of the selmer and with the PPT I feel I gained more of what In wanted without making any compromises.
The sound is warmer or darker if you like, sweeter ,slightly louder and raw sounding when you need it…
I’ve been playing the ebonite 9* PPT tenor mpc for a couple of months now. And I can say this is one fantastic mpc. It is perfect for my purposes, playing mostly blues, old school R&B, and some jazz. This mouthpiece is extremely versatile; pushing it will raise the roof, but the sound does not get thin or shrill like it does with a lot of high baffle mpcs. At the other end of the spectrum, it plays with a beautiful subtone, especially in the low register. And the tone quality is great at any volume. Some mpcs lock you into a certain tone; but the PPT allows me to ‘shape the sound’ to get the tone I’m after.
The PPT is very responsive and plays easily, even with the large tip opening. It will take a ton of air, but also respond to the slightest whisper. When pushed it develops a nice edge, but the tone stays solid. The lowest notes play well and the altissimo pops right out, better than most mpcs I’ve played.
I’ve owned and played a few truly great mpcs, both high and low baffle styles, and this one is as good or better than any of them. The more I play it, the better it gets. Thanks for a great mpc, Pete!
John Lull (verified owner) – March 17, 2017
I have been playing the #8* onyxite mouthpiece on my Bauhaus M2 tenor, and found it versatility has expanded the range of the sax out of recognition. Previously dull notes now sparkle, and are more easy to express. It will Roar or whisper at will. Blues shifts can make you cry (in a good way). Swing just takes you to a different era. Jazz really feels like you are sitting behind the stand with the band’s logo. I can’t wait to pick it up to see what it will give today. Vandoren ZZ Jazz seem to give best range but unfiled Java half a point harder also give excellent response. There is however one serious drawback . I have to put it down to eat and sleep, just to keep the family happy, so be warned these mouthpieces are addictive, LOL. How lucky we are to have people like you Pete, researching and refining mouthpiece design to give us more than was even thought of before, and profits to charity. It’s a no brainer everybody should have one. Thanks again Pete
Gerry baker (verified owner) – August 14, 2018
I’ve been playing two years now, on a variety of alto saxophones and mouthpieces and just received the Onyxite PPT Alto MP in 6** tip opening for my birthday today.
Typically, I started two years ago with the MP which came with my Jupiter 565-567, then a Yamaha 4C which was OK, then tried a Selmer C* which I didn’t get on with, nor a Runyon 22 6, and latterly a Bari Esprit II which is very good for a beginner, keeping the notes in tune with its fairly narrow tip opening.
I also tried three D’Addario MPs in 5, 6, & 7 openings recently but none of them suited me.
The Bari was replaced a few months ago with a Yamaha 6CM with 1.9mm tip opening as this gave me a jazzier sound with my favourite Rico Jazz Select 2S filed reed. This combo sounded great on my newly acquired Yamaha YAS-62 MkI “Purple Logo” (which came with the 6CM) but not quite so good on my Buffet SDA which I’d played for around a year prior (I’ve been through a good few horns on my short sax journey!).
So today I put an RJS reed on the new PPT (her name is Poppet!) and tried this combo on the 62. A little worried by its wider 2.1mm tip, I took my first breath and played… WOW!!!!! Suddenly I’m a professional!!!!!!??
I switched back to the 6CM to check… had I really been happy with its sound? Yes, I guess… but now IT HAS TO GO IN THE BIN!!!
“Blown” away by my new sound, admittedly with a few “getting used to it” squeaks here and there, I thought I’d give it a go on the Buffet, having tried and tried with other mouthpiece/reed combinations to get a jazzy sound out of what is sometimes described as a more classical instrument.
Oh WOW even more!!! This MP has transformed my SDA into a 62 Purple Logo! In fact, it is absolutely perfectly controllable on this horn without a squeak or bum note. This IS the holy grail MP for my SDA!!
And LOUD! On both horns I could blow as hard as I can and the sound kept coming.
I tried some other reeds, around a dozen different ones, but the RJS 2S filed is the best so far for me. I think the squeaks on the Yamaha horn are down to the wider tip and should come good with a few more hours. Talking about hours… my mouth aches! I’ve been playing for three hours and didn’t want to put this MP down! Don’t panic though, it’s an easy blow. I just spent too long testing it!
At £195 it’s over ten times what I paid for the Bari but for me it represents excellent value, just for the fun I’ve had today, let alone the rest of my playing life
Big Mart Winning
Big Mart Winning
Hi Pete, Just to let you know thanks for letting me try out your mouthpiece. I have it as essential part of my saxophone set up. It really works for me is capable of doing anything ….any style. I used this on Roger Daltreys last album. One track with Pete Townsend , there was inter play with sax and Guitar. You’re flippin terrific Pete Thomases mouthpiece was gripping to the tarmac like crazy. From down the bottom of the horn to harmonics I never even realised I could manage. Unfortunately I didn’t have his mouthpiece on my baritone. That was a Berg Larsen. Happy blowing where ever you are.
Big Mart Winning.
(Van Morrison Band. John Martyn . Nick Lowe. Lee Scratch Perry. Dennis Brown Ray Charles . Tanita Tikaram. Hillbilly Moon Explosion. Chris Farlowe . Roger Daltrey)
The PPT Mouthpiece Story
Like many saxophone players I have been on a constant search for the ideal saxophone sound. I was after a mouthpiece that not only gave me something back, but at the same time allowed me to get my own sound (or rather sounds because I need a lot of versatility). For quite a long time I stuck with an Otto Link STM 7* on tenor, but although I was quite happy with the sound for some styles, I found it not quite versatile enough for my work as a session musician, so I started to look around and try different mouthpieces, including Lawton, Guy Hawkins, Wolf Tayne, Berg Larsen, Vandoren and Dave Guardala, all of which had something about them I liked, but none of which did everything I wanted. Was that too much to ask? No, so with the help of master craftsman and Acoustician Ed Pillinger I developed my own range: PPT mouthpieces.
What’s different about PPTs?
Historically mouthpiece makers aimed for consistency across the range, so their alto is like a smaller version of their tenor. But there is a big flaw here. Back in the golden age of jazz and R&B saxophone, tenor players found that Otto Link or Berg Larsen suited the tenor, alto players found that Meyer or Brilhart suited the alto. So for this very reason PPT tenors, altos, sopranos and baritones each have a different design to bring out the best whatever size saxophone you play. However I found that there was nothing that fitted nicely between a Link and. Larsen, so this was my goal – my quest for the holy grail of mouthpiece. The PPT tenor has a big chamber, and a baffle that took months to perfect. It can give a sparkle or edge to a sound that Otto link players have to really struggle to get but at the same time it is actually capable of real warm lushness that can be elusive with a Berg Larsen. We refined the concept of the Larsen baffle by using much smoother contours. And in the end it paid off. PPTs are molded from scratch using various composites chosen for strength, acoustic properties and of course, safety.
- Black HD Resin A high density hard rubber (ebonite) and bronze composite – very attractive pearlescent look
- Onyxite (soprano only) – White stone powder resin composite. Custom orders.
- Solid Silver – Hallmarked sterling silver models – available in tenor only, custom orders.
Originally PPTs were available in dark blue or bronzite (a resin compound that includes bronze powder). MKII PPTs were made with a new composite, Onyxite, that included powdered stone. These are still available as a custom order. MKIII PPTs are Black HD Pearlescent (Resin), a brand new formula that includes bronze powder and hard rubber (ebonite). The density is designed to be the same as grenadilla wood which has the same sound but very slightly more conistent across the dynamic range. However when we talk about the sound of a mouthpiece material, it is often a very subtle difference – The basic sound of all resin PPTs is so similar that it is not realistic to differentiate via sound clips. Low baffle pieces (such as the alto and soprano) can have very slight differences between onyxite and HD resin, however the higher baffle mouthpieces such as the tenor do not. If we are able to accurately record any differences then sound clips will be posted.
The inspiration behind the different models
Think of a wilder Otto Link or an easier to control Berg Larsen. While developing it I was currently expoerimenting with vandorens and RPC to get that elusive sound and response I knew must exist somewhere so those pieces are also inspirations for the PPT tenor
This was a bit easier. We got hold of about 20 vintage Meyers, each was quite different and simply chose the best one and made a very close copy.
This was based on a vintage Selmer Soloist, but with a lot of work done to the throat. Dimensions were tricky, because it was necessary to find just the right throat and chamber combination to sweeten the sound but without the intonation suffering.
This was easy. I just happened to own the very best slant signature Link baritone mouthpiece. So we copied that. The Power is the same but with a similar baffle to the PPT tenor – a smoother semi-subtle bullet shape.
About the New “Hooligan” Models
We are finally very proud to offer a new line in PPT mouthpieces for those with no fear (of the neighbours) – the Power & Hooligan models. This has taken years in research and development. Originally made with purple resin, these are now also available in black HD pearlescent (resin).
Hooligan by Name, Hooligan by Nature
Wild, bright, dirty gritty and totally irresponsible. But of course in the right hands it can be tamed. But maybe tamed is the wrong word – this is unlikely ever to sound tame, however you should be able to bend it to your will without losing any hooliganality. On to the sound concept. I was not just after a bright, edgy “paint peeler” – there are plenty of those around. One of the things saxophone players seek in a blues or rock mouthpiece is an elusive kind of sound that I call “grit,” and a truly gritty sound is what we are aiming for with this mouthpiece. Of course the player him or herself can supply that, but it really does help if the mouthpiece is amenable. Otherwise attempts to add grit can often just sound overblown and have a tendency to sound flat.
Inspiration for the Hooligan Alto
We started out working on the alto version. Originally we thought of taking a typical “holy grail” New York Meyer Brothers type mouthpiece and adding a baffle. Sounds easy, but that didn’t quite work in the way we wanted. One reason this has taken so long in development is that getting the perfection you strive for is not an exact science. A lot of trial and error is involved getting not just the right baffle and chamber combination, but the best facing curve. All these factors contribute to what makes it work the way we want. We only produce the alto with a wide 8* facing, as that is the facing that works best in combination with the chamber and baffle, however custom orders are of course possible for different facings.
So what is the Power?
The Power is a sort of slightly less bright design and we use if for the baritone where often want not quite so much edge. You can still get the edge, but it’s just more of a baritony sort of edge.Plenty of grunt and fatness. It is maybe slightly better behaved than the Hooligan, but still capable of some bad behaviour. Of course you can get a really hooligan baritone if you want (at your own risk) via a custom order.
“First impressions. I love the way the mouthpiece looks, and it is beautifully finished for a prototype. Fortunately had an old 2 screw Lig that fit. Spent about half an hour going back and forth between my 10MFan Boss and the Hooligan. Tried a 2 1/2 Bass Clarinet and 3 and 3 1/2 Tenor Sax Legere Signature Reeds. Facing curve works well on all 3 no quackiness or other oddities. As expected the 3 is easier at this stage to go quietly down low but was a little more fussy on altissimo. A few hours of get to know are in order. Sound wise my first impressions are its not quite as raspy as my Boss can be but offers a wider palette in the more civilized range of sax noises. I use a 10MFan Robusto for section work which is a great section mouthpiece. Mid point of the soundscape of the PPT is between the two others. Time will tell, but I think the altissimo on Pete’s piece is capable of being a little fuller if not overblown. Both Boss and PPT can shriek up there if pushed. Again first impressions but I think the PPT Hooligan has the widest sound palette of any mpce I have played so far. Intonation on my SML Gold Medal 1 requires a wee bit less correction on the PPT than the Boss which indicates to me that the mpce and SML are a great match. Big bore horn and big open mpce. Nicely free blowing which Suits my style. A few hours of long tones at the bottom and altissimo ends will tell the tale. Oops forgot to add, it’s nicely balanced across the range of the horn.” Jazzaferri (PPT Tenor Hooligan prototype)
Inspiration for the Hooligan Tenor
This one goes to 11. The tenor is closer to the standard PPT in that the baffle is very similar, and in spite of the huge tip (11) is surprisingly easy to blow. For intense rock and roll, this allows you to really push the sound into overdrive, with a huge growl that doesn’t force the flatness you often get when pushing so much air into the instrument.